tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post115863633286917787..comments2024-03-27T00:21:47.263-07:00Comments on Pediatric Dentistry: Torn Maxillary Frenum in a ChildDr. Dean Brandonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08709454067987829233noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-88777027359454053992012-03-23T11:24:23.776-07:002012-03-23T11:24:23.776-07:00I am going to shut down the comment section on thi...I am going to shut down the comment section on this post for now, as it has grown very large (over 60 comments). There is a lot of info in the post and the comments on this topic. There is also information in other posts here in this blog on trauma and related topics.Dr. Dean Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08709454067987829233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-85646618407871406352012-03-23T11:22:50.226-07:002012-03-23T11:22:50.226-07:00Most swelling from minor oral traumas subsides wit...Most swelling from minor oral traumas subsides within two or three days.Dr. Dean Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08709454067987829233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-21766379066476166962012-03-23T01:55:33.607-07:002012-03-23T01:55:33.607-07:00new here but couldnt help noticing how panicked us...new here but couldnt help noticing how panicked us mothers get when something happens to our little ones i would just like to say minor injuries to the mouth such as a torn frenulum may look worse than what it really is as the mouth is wet when it bleeds your blood gets diluted therefor looks more however if in any doubt at all just take your wee one to his/her doctor/dentist i for one would rather be called over protective and paranoid than be the one who sits and does nothing about itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-69880542199027921562012-03-23T01:38:15.919-07:002012-03-23T01:38:15.919-07:00my 2yr old son fell off his big sisters bed yester...my 2yr old son fell off his big sisters bed yesterday and completely tore his top frenulum there was alot of blood stopped within 10 mins but i wasnt overly concerned as its supposedly quite a common injury in babies and toddlers add into that the mouth is self cleaning because of the saliva so i dont need to worry about infection im keeping him away from salty or citrus foods to avoid irritation my question is when does the swelling ease up cause he's not to happy with hot&cold compresses thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-33717538102437174962012-03-19T20:20:58.629-07:002012-03-19T20:20:58.629-07:00Here is a copy of a comment I made on a previous p...Here is a copy of a comment I made on a previous post: "Can't tell you what it is, but sounds more like a viral infection called primary herpetic gingivostomatitis. I see a lot of little kids get this with ulcers all over and they are pretty miserable..ask your dentist or physician. Fever is sometimes present with this."<br /><br />Things like that run it's course in 10 to 14 days.Dr. Dean Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08709454067987829233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-25544560162964705712012-03-19T20:06:18.588-07:002012-03-19T20:06:18.588-07:00Hi Dr. Brandon,
Thank you for this post. I hope y...Hi Dr. Brandon,<br /><br />Thank you for this post. I hope you can help me - I'm attaching a link below to a photo I took of my daughter tonight with the following description: <br /><br /><i>Photo showing thick upper frenulum (top) and how it appears to be affecting other teeth (bottom). This week the gums around L's front eight teeth are swollen, red, and bleed frequently. She isn't eating well (nursing only), she's drooling a little (she never once drooled with the other 12 teeth), she has two sores on the outside of her mouth (lower lip and chin), and her stool has softened back to breastmilk-only consistency. Her breath smells different, too. No fever, no noticeable chewing or biting. After nursing her this afternoon I noticed lots of blood - on her mouth, her arm, myself, so tonight when brushing her teeth I examined her mouth more closely - her very low and tight frenulum appears to be tearing and causing the bleeding. I've not been able to brush or floss her teeth well for about a week, as these pics show (though I did clean them with a wet cotton swab after taking these pics) - every time there's contact with the upper gums, the bleeding starts again. What should I do?</i><br /><br />I made an appointment with her pediatrician for this Wednesday, but I would sincerely appreciate your opinion - especially your thoughts on the photo. Thank you! <br /><br />Photo link: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/iBamgnTnPclYMNmq_tNgQ2PwqUsjp1blu4OKnKLTFdc?feat=directlinkH. B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-5115869818792382162012-03-11T14:07:15.989-07:002012-03-11T14:07:15.989-07:00Frenum tears usually do not need treatment --and t...Frenum tears usually do not need treatment --and there is no muscle in a frenum.Dr. Dean Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08709454067987829233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-58024375004602087732012-03-11T14:01:16.120-07:002012-03-11T14:01:16.120-07:00sheesh! this just happened to my 14 month old son ...sheesh! this just happened to my 14 month old son this morning! i think i had more grief than the length of his cry when i realized what had happened (ironically it was with the toothbrush he had in his mouth when he fell over and banged his mouth). my dentist has the week off, i figure it should be fine as long as the cut doesn't get infected? there is the tissue/muscle hanging from the upper lip...leave it alone for now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-67838051342348486832012-03-06T21:51:06.576-08:002012-03-06T21:51:06.576-08:00My 12 month old just tore his. Like above mentione...My 12 month old just tore his. Like above mentioned there was tons of blood. 60 min later he was fine, eating. But when I gave him a bottle it completely opened and started bleeding again. He is also on meds for bronchitis and an ear infection. So I know he does need fluids, but how long do I avoid giving him a bottle?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-56398530195694336342012-02-18T06:22:39.909-08:002012-02-18T06:22:39.909-08:00They heal but usually with some separation, sort o...They heal but usually with some separation, sort of like doing their own frenectomy which means it's less likely to happen again.Dr. Dean Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08709454067987829233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-6990405309785520552012-02-17T22:33:46.952-08:002012-02-17T22:33:46.952-08:00My dd cut her frenulum by accident. Do they reatta...My dd cut her frenulum by accident. Do they reattach? Or will it just heal with the gum and lip seperate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-55850678938145059422012-02-14T14:57:17.894-08:002012-02-14T14:57:17.894-08:00Sometimes I see kids (usually very young kids or b...Sometimes I see kids (usually very young kids or babies) who get a primary viral infection that causes sore places, ulcers, in the mouth they are pretty miserable and don't eat well and don't want to brush. I advise seeing your pediatric dentist or pediatrician to check it out. You don't want to go too long before a professiojnal needs to see to avoid dehydration if a young child is not eating or drinking. Most of the kids I see with the virus, well it runs iut's course and they are fine. It's good to see if there is anyhting that be done to make her feel better and to make sure it's not something else.Dr. Dean Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08709454067987829233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-60724367786404595292012-02-14T06:25:33.985-08:002012-02-14T06:25:33.985-08:00I'm not sure if the Frenum is what she tore bu...I'm not sure if the Frenum is what she tore but her mouth was bleeding but I couldnt figure out where. Then I looked in her mouth because she wasnt about to suck on her bottle she had to use a cup and she wont even use a sippy cup. She hasnt really been eating because he was sick and now her mouth is like that. She has REALLY bad breath and I'm not sure if that's from the torn frenum or because she's sick and can't quite breath out of her nose so she uses her mouth to breath. Her breathe is REALLY REALLY bad and she hasnt been eating or drinking much fiulds for 4 days now and lose some weight and her upper lip is kind of swallon... any suggestions?Songnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-79488223072660137782011-11-15T15:34:00.600-08:002011-11-15T15:34:00.600-08:00Frenums do not really "grow back" in my ...Frenums do not really "grow back" in my experience. Have your Pediatric Dentist take a look to see if it is within the range or normal. Trauma can cause problems, but usually nothing too much (depending on the extent of the trauma).Dr. Dean Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08709454067987829233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-24343590406172341922011-11-15T05:37:34.067-08:002011-11-15T05:37:34.067-08:00my daughter tore her ferenum at 18mnths she is now...my daughter tore her ferenum at 18mnths she is now 2years and it hasnt grown back i dont like the look of it. do you think it will grow back or can she have it stitched?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-46539190746582872772011-10-30T13:55:56.382-07:002011-10-30T13:55:56.382-07:00Gosh same here, 10 month old son was playing in hi...Gosh same here, 10 month old son was playing in his playpen and hit his teeth on the rail and bled a lot and now his top frenum thingy is falppy n loose, I jus put pressure n ice one it to stop the bleeding, but how long should it take to heal???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-29255801765678229672011-10-09T10:02:08.479-07:002011-10-09T10:02:08.479-07:00My 9 month old looked like she may have needed a f...My 9 month old looked like she may have needed a frenectomy anyways, but today she tore it on her sippy cup somehow. It tore pretty far, and of course, my first instinct is to panic. I didn't want to bother my nurse sister AGAIN because her daughter is really sick, and she needs to be looking after her, not catering to my mommy panic. I'm assuming.g no antibiotics are needed? Anyways, thanks for info. I feel a lot more relaxed knowing this is a normal event among young children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-72298953563971682732011-09-30T07:20:04.468-07:002011-09-30T07:20:04.468-07:00By the time you read this, I bet things are a litt...By the time you read this, I bet things are a little better. If you still have concerns, please see your pediatric dentist.Dr. Dean Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08709454067987829233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-83619579171262779102011-09-29T20:14:34.042-07:002011-09-29T20:14:34.042-07:00My 12 month old tore his Frenum tonight. Is there ...My 12 month old tore his Frenum tonight. Is there any worry while they are sleeping if the tear keeps re opening and bleeding? When he smiles or cries, it starts bleeding again. The Frenum is basically just hanging there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-69880980957272746972011-09-21T09:27:37.858-07:002011-09-21T09:27:37.858-07:00I would go on the oral surgeon's advice. Usual...I would go on the oral surgeon's advice. Usually dissolvable stitches will not go away till the tissues are pretty much healed. Silk non dissolvable stitches are usually removed after about 5 days. Ask your doctor what he thinks in your case. Good luck.Dr. Dean Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08709454067987829233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-84628806654103957452011-09-21T09:18:29.259-07:002011-09-21T09:18:29.259-07:00My 15 year old son was injuried in football practi...My 15 year old son was injuried in football practice where his bottom lip was disconnected from his gum. He had to have oral surgery with many stitches. The swell went down but he still has the dissolvable stitches in his mouth. My concern is once the stitches dissovle will the lip stay attached to the gum line. The oral surgeon said it's healing fine but for us to come back in 1 month for him to look at my son's mouth. I hear the mouth heals quickly but I still have concerns. I never saw anything like this before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-26297415708873567842011-06-25T18:32:51.233-07:002011-06-25T18:32:51.233-07:00Sorry to hear that. Of course my recommendation is...Sorry to hear that. Of course my recommendation is to see your dentist.Dr. Dean Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08709454067987829233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-40646692497859412962011-06-25T17:17:39.858-07:002011-06-25T17:17:39.858-07:00So I was playing water balloons and smack I trip a...So I was playing water balloons and smack I trip and fall on my teeth and hurt them on a brick! They hurt so much! I can't eat nor brush those two teeth! It's one of the front teeth and the one next to it! The top teeth. I feel them loose! I dont want them to fall! I'm only 15 and theyre my permanent teeth! Now can i brush them? And well my toP lip on the inside is like bruised it's purple and the tooth next to the front tooth is crooked !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-81230307843026650432011-06-17T17:47:12.563-07:002011-06-17T17:47:12.563-07:00Yea. My daughter fell at the same age. Nothing I c...Yea. My daughter fell at the same age. Nothing I could do and I was 2 feet away. Good luck.Dr. Dean Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08709454067987829233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16472438.post-76908833262746906742011-06-17T17:31:45.019-07:002011-06-17T17:31:45.019-07:00last evening my 14 month was playing at the playgr...last evening my 14 month was playing at the playground and one of the older kids ran into him it was so sudden like a car crash i couldnt do anything. there was so much blood we examined him and it was the maxillary today he much better but i wanted to know if we would have to do surgery thanks to this article i can sleep tonight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com